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Butter Etiquette – Ep. 93

It’s high time someone on the internet took a good hard look at the various butter etiquette nuances out there. I mean, seriously, is it okay to use butter on a chocolate muffin?  How about on a peanut butter and jelly and butter sandwich? How about for shavin’ them man whiskers?

Fortunately, Hugh and Rod have once again heroically stepped in to provide you, the Hungry Dads listener, with the indispensable “Butter Appropriateness Quiz” ©  Rod ranks the following butter scenarios in the order of most appropriate use of butter to the least appropriate use of butter. Feel free to rank them for yourself and see if you’re as smart as Rod!


  • Blueberry Muffin
  • Movie Theater Popcorn
  • On a Steak
  • Peanut Butter and Jelly and Butter Sandwich
  • Ham and Butter Sandwich
  • In Coffee
  • Chocolate Muffin
  • Generously Buttering EVERY Bite of a Dinner Roll
  • Pop Tart
  • Saltine

Oh, and then the guys each perform a butter shave on-air.  Is that appropriate?  Listen to find out!!!

Follow-ups and Party Plans – Episode 5

In episode 5, the guys reveal their Lays Do Us a Flavor votes. Then, they unleash never heard before recordings of actual secret menu ordering attempts:  Hugh roams the streets of Manhattan in search of a Chicken McGriddle while Rod orders Frings at a Burger King drive-thru. The conversation then shifts gears,  and Rod offers up an interesting tip on scoring extra food at kids birthday parties.



(01:12) 2014 Lays Do Us a Flavor Contest Follow-up

After discussing in depth and even doing a live taste test in prior episodes, Rod and Hugh reveal their official votes in the 2014 Lays Do Us a Flavor Contest from the four final choices: Cappuccino, Cheddar Bacon Mac and Cheese, Mango Salsa, and Wasabi Ginger.

Rod voted for Cheddar Bacon Mac and Cheese.  He was looking for a long-lasting relationship in a chip. Even though he very much enjoyed Cappiccino in the live taste test in Episode One.

Hugh voted for Cappuccino as it was both unique and delicious.

(02:50) Snack Hack Follow up – Poor Man’s Party Mix

In Episode Four Hugh gave our listeners ideas on how to create unconventional, unhealthy quasi-tasty snacks from random ingredients in the kitchen. Poor Man’s Party Mix Recipe:

  • Step 1 – take bowl of Cheerios (a cup?)
  • Step 2 – take a pat of butter and place it on top of the Cheerios.  Shake on some garlic salt.
  • Step 3 – Microwave for a while.  If you’re lazy just nuke it until the butter is melted. If you want better butter coverage, stop every 15 seconds to stir it up.
  • Step 4 – Stir it up

Rod tried it, struggling with butter proportions and technique,  giving it a favorable (but not outstanding) review.

(06: 38) Secret Menu Items Follow Up

In Episode Four Rod and Hugh committed to visiting a restaurant to order a secret menu item.  A secret menu item is a food item that is not on the menu, but legend has it that you can get it if you are bold enough to ask for it.  In Episode Five, we learn how it went, including covert audio recordings of their attempts.

Hugh made three attempts to get a “Chicken and Waffles Sandwich” from three separate Manhattan McDonalds locations.  The “Chicken and Waffles Sandwich“ is a McGriddle with Chicken on it.  The results:

  • 7:38AM – McDonald’s Manhattan #1 – Chicken and Waffles Sandwich attempt – DENIED
  • 7:46AM – McDonald’s Location #2 – Chicken and Waffles Sandwich attempt – DENIED
  • 7:57AM – McDonald’s Location #3 – Chicken and Waffles Sandwich attempt – DENIED

Rod worked the suburban beat, asking for an order of “frings” (fries mixed with onion rings) at Burger King. His attempt was audio recorded. The result:

  • 12:08PM – Burger King – undisclosed Florida location – SUCCESS

(16:32) Bacon Premiums and Pork Swaps

In the segment’s wrap up, Hugh posits whether Subway’s “bacon premium” would apply to ham, considering that such a pork-swap should not cause a major disruption to Subway’s meat records.

(17:53) Kids Party Eating Strategy

Rod advises on how to get a more than little fair share at a kid’s birthday party – why not “accidently” drop/spill half of an item (slice of pizza or cupcake) and then find yourself entitled to a brand new one?

KFC Double Down, time warp, time machine

Fast Food Time Warp – Episode 2

Hugh discusses his traumatic experience with a KFC Double Down via a Fast Food Time Warp, and the guys give a sneak peak at their thoughts on secret menus.  Rod then offers a food confession and advice on gas station covert snacking…. including an awkward social situation that our listeners need to be aware of.

(00:30) Fast Food Time Warp – Hugh recounts his age old tale of ordering a “sandwich” marketed specifically because it has no bun and consists almost entirely of fried chicken. (See the Hungry Dads Essay below)

(10:10) Secret menu Items – Hugh gives a shout out to www.hackthemenu.com, where you can learn about all the world and options for “Secret Menu” items. Rod and Hugh briefly debate the definition/qualifications for a secret menu item as well as the balancing line between keeping it “secret” and making it a “marketing ploy” clearly not intended to be a secret. Examples discussed:

  • Frings (Burger King)
  • Pie McFlurry (McDonalds)
  • Animal Style (In and Out Burger)
  • Pickle-O’s (Sonic)

(18:17) Food Confessions – the Gas Station Sneak – Rod bears his soul and acknowledges that any trip to the gas station has less to do with fueling his vehicle and more to do with feeding his cravings for mini-mart staples like fountain soda and beef jerky. Hugh compares Rod to a recovering cocaine addict when Rod acknowledges that he is trying to kick his soda addiction by replacing Mountain Dew with Slim Jims. Rod’s gas station tips:

  • Avoid chips. Too messy. Bags no longer come in “fun size.”
  • Think about the smell that will linger in the car (peanuts, spicy items)
  • Dispose of receipts and packaging

(26:20) No Chivalry for Grown Men – As a bonus, Rod shares an anecdote by which he learned that the manliest of men will refuse to walk through a mini-mart door held open by another man. What should Rod expect from such a beef-jerky laden location? Real men will naturally flock there.


A HUNGRY DADS ESSAY: Doublin’ Down with KFC

By Hugh Gallon

A sucker for marketing and meat, I went to KFC on the day of the Double Down’s debut. I felt like Homer Simpson when he traveled the country for the Rib-wich. Truth be told, I regularly go to KFC on Mondays before bocce since its on my way. But as luck would have it, yesterday coincided with the un-bunned sandwich’s debut. Was it delicious? Of course it was. Would it have been better with a bun? Definitely. I ordered two biscuits on the side and ultimately ended up crafting little sandwiches myself. In part b/c the fried meat was piping hot and couldn’t be easily held, even with the little paper pouch. The real story wasn’t so much the sandwich – but the ordering of it.

Walking in, I thought that perhaps it would be sold out, or that I’d have to fight mobs of meat-craving zombie customers. When I arrived, there were actually fewer people than usual. And I didn’t see a single bit of signage for the Double Down. It wasn’t on the menu. Granted, this wasn’t a true KFC – its a KFC/Pizza Hut/Nathans/Tim Hortons. But still – I’d expected some fanfare.

I stepped up (there was no line) and asked in a somewhat lowered voice if they had the Double Down. The woman at the cashier paused, sighed, and looked at the woman at the other cash register. They looked at each other for what seemed like forever – not smiling, or laughing, or frowning. Just looking. I said – “ummm… do you?” She looked at me and said, “yes” with what I think was a roll of the eyes, but it was very subtle. “Okay, I’ll take one.” I said. She half-sighed, turned lazily around and stuck her head in the back area to the “cook.” I heard her mumbling the words “Double Down – one of those things…” The “cook” kept responding very loudly and annoyed, “huh? Double What?”

By now there were other customers lining up behind me, and it looked like I’d started a scene, or requested something insane like a fried bald eagle. Finally the cashier turned around and told me that it would be 10 minutes. Since I was past the point of no return, I said okay, paid, and stepped aside to wait for my meal. Then I noticed in the back, behind the counter, behind the fridge and a trash can, a big Double Down sign. Why wasn’t it out? After 10 minutes of awkward waiting, my Double Down arrived. I went to a table and ate, customers in line and people at the tables craned their necks to get a look at my sandwich.

Foolishly, I sat at a table that was right in front of the cashiers. I felt them staring at me as I ate. They didn’t whisper, or talk, or laugh. They just watched, like they were watching a zoo animal at feeding time. Its possible that my perspective here is exaggerated by paranoia. And I was perhaps a sight to see. It was an awkward eating experience, because it was so hot – it burned my hands and mouth to the touch, (like eating a really hot piece of pizza,) and I surely looked like a disgusting sloppy wild animal tearing at a carcass. But most amazingly, in the 25 minutes I was there, not one other person ordered a Double Down. And some real fat losers besides me were there. I feel like I fell for some sort of bad joke. Am I the only person who decided to try this breadless sandwich? Is there something I don’t know?

Check out Episode 2 of Hungry Dads’ Podcast for more.

Hugh Gallon is a dad. A hungry dad. He can be heard on the podcast Hungry Dads, available in iTunes and at www.hungrydads.com